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What Game do you think has gone too far with violence?
Manhunt
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Postal 2
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Serous Sam
 0%  [ 0 ]
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:20 pm    Post subject: When are Video Games "too" Violent?

Over the years, Video Games have become increasingly violent and gory with the advancement in 3d graphics. Although some of these games are entertaining and actually have a good storyline and plot, there are some games that cross the line between fun and wrong. I had recently had the honor of playing "Manhunt" by Rockstar Games. This game is wrong on so many levels. In this game, the whole point is to make snuff videos and execute people. I only played about 15 minutes of the game when I turned off the PS2 and asked Blockbuster for my money back. This game makes Rockstar look bad. I mean, Grand Theft Auto is probobly the best combination of violence, and adventure that I had ever played. It actually had some meaning.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject:

postal 2 war pretty violent.. after about 10 minutes of the game the game lost the whole pint ang became a bloody mess.. which got boring after another 5 minutes.. some games really do cross the line between fun violence and disgusting violence
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:33 pm    Post subject: Scary games are just part of Games....

The games advance trough time. Now that we riched an era where video games can emulate real life. its hard to judge with games are violent or not, for example if you take a shooter game like max payne 2, I think it demonstrates the atmosphere that game posses, its surroundings . And with out blood and other violent key features games would not give you a real thriller when you play it.

Their is sever type on themes that violent can be used for. IF the game is made to be pure violent. or violent is just part of the game(aka add-on).

I am sure a lot of people would want a game that contains pure gore and mayhem. So they can sit there for hours and release their anger at the game.

At same time I don’t believe that game can motivate a person to cause crime nor something that causes harm. If look at it psychologically a game like postal 2 can make u realese all you anger with in 10 mins....

It just shows you the reality of what can happen ... I bet most of the people would never want that to happen for real, of couse excluding some

Violent games are just like scary movies with different approuch and how many of us watch scary movies ?


But remember games are intertement just like movies, and there as scary movies so as games just games it like you control it with give you more momenthom....


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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject:

true, you got a good point there
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:18 pm    Post subject: scary movies...?

I don't really get how you can compare video games to scary movies. They are two very different things. In Scary movies, viewers have no control of what goes on. The movies can only get as violent as Hollywood makes it. Movie Production companies know that movies full of extreme gore and violence do not really appeal to the public. In video games, you get to control what goes on in the virtual world around you. In some ways this is good, and some ways this is bad. In the Grand Theft Auto series, Rockstar gave the user the power to reign chaos over a given city, but also threw in non-violent missions such as street racing. As I played the Postal 2 Demo a little more, I realized that Running With Sissors gave users a bit too much control. As I was playing I got a bit curious. I burned down a group of people with a can of gasoline. After that, my character unzipped his pants and p*ssed all over the burnt dead corpses. That is not my definition of "Stress Relief." That is pure EVIL! Who ever finds joy in this should be put away.
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:35 pm    Post subject:

SexyWexy, you make no sense in your post, and violent video games are a good relief of stress, becouse when you are mad at somthing you whant to kill someone, and in video games you can do just that without any consequenses.

[edit]: remember VIDEO GAMES ARE NOT REAL, so if people find joy in killing in video games it is always better then if they kill in real life
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:39 pm    Post subject:

okey SexyWexy.... you sound pretty nerdy....

okey who the f*ck cares what you think ?

i am talkin about millions of viewers,

and point i made the video games and movies are in the same category of intertement ofcouse youll find difference but that too common of an argument...

and that was pretty smart after you play postal i makes u relize what kind of thins to can do out of rage... just put your self on that position... of being pissed and playing game like that you gonna feel like that games carryes tention with you..

yea your right its pointless but that that what it has to make people relize that it is pointless...

would you ever think of a game like postal can be served as positive view... it can becouse it exresses all the negative engery...

movies are movies... and games are games different feeling, different opintions bolth entertament bolth come in violents... i am sure the movies are more violent that are up to this year... we'er not that advenced to express comlite atmophire of something as real as movie can be ...

just look at psychological point of veiw and see what game like postal can do... and its raded mature so i dun think u should be sitting next to controll.... excuse me miss
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:41 pm    Post subject:

its better if they kill in real life.... tell me plz would u rather realese your rage next to a game or on street what are the differences spending 24 hrs on the lock ?
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:51 am    Post subject:

Amazing how friggen rude you are.

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okey SexyWexy.... you sound pretty nerdy....

okey who the f*ck cares what you think ?


What on earth is your problem?
I'm talking from the standpoint of millions of intelligent people who know something about what they are talking about.

Some video games - like the ones SexyWexy was describing - encourage meaningless violence because that's the very thing that makes them "entertaining". They are not just some stupid "throw away your anger" cans of trash the way you so cluelessly make them to be. Playing the roles of the very people commiting atrocities naturally makes those atrocities fun, laughable, and acceptable. Why the heck else would you play them? Of course most people aren't stupid enough to let it ruin their senses completely. That doesn't mean that it doesn't damage their senses! I have nothing against you personally, but next time you flame someone for something you seem to know hardly anything about, especially if its from something dangerous, like your apparent attitude, think again.

Getting rid of negative energy? Like what perhaps? Being mad at some way somebody wronged you? There's plenty of constructive ways to release your anger over some way you have been wronged, that actually help solve problems. My post is, -hopefully-, an example.

Please, man, for crying out loud, I'm not your enemy. Promise. I'm simply reacting to a really messed up perspective that I see going on here.

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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:48 am    Post subject:

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Amazing how friggen rude you are.

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okey SexyWexy.... you sound pretty nerdy....

okey who the f*ck cares what you think ?


What on earth is your problem?
I'm talking from the standpoint of millions of intelligent people who know something about what they are talking about.

Some video games - like the ones SexyWexy was describing - encourage meaningless violence because that's the very thing that makes them "entertaining". They are not just some stupid "throw away your anger" cans of trash the way you so cluelessly make them to be. Playing the roles of the very people commiting atrocities naturally makes those atrocities fun, laughable, and acceptable. Why the heck else would you play them? Of course most people aren't stupid enough to let it ruin their senses completely. That doesn't mean that it doesn't damage their senses! I have nothing against you personally, but next time you flame someone for something you seem to know hardly anything about, especially if its from something dangerous, like your apparent attitude, think again.

Getting rid of negative energy? Like what perhaps? Being mad at some way somebody wronged you? There's plenty of constructive ways to release your anger over some way you have been wronged, that actually help solve problems. My post is, -hopefully-, an example.

Please, man, for crying out loud, I'm not your enemy. Promise. I'm simply reacting to a really messed up perspective that I see going on here.

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lol, just kidding of course, I dont think those sites work anyway.

SW, you took the topic too far, there is no such thing as a violent video game, it is simply a bunch of pixels acting on a screen as programmed. It is how your mind determines what the game looks to you that makes it violent. Therefore, there is no such thing as a game 'too' violent.


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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:05 pm    Post subject: Anonymous poster

okey .... u make statements u dont back anything up. do u even look at it from my stand point .. ofcouse not...

you made it very nice by describeing to us what games are ... good we know that why we'er talkin about games...

umm..... did u even play postal when u mad ?

look dont just write from top of ur head and then belive in it, it had prove ... u would never look at postal the way i didnt so u dont know anything, becouse i said it for a reason by examening ...

i said made no openions only results of the tests that wore made... people do leave negative anergy in the game, just like saying when u watch a relaxing movie it makes ur relax or when u play i game and it makes u forget about everything ... are you getting the point that i trowing here ?

look honestly i dont think u can argue against me .... so even you put S**t out make sure to brave me with smallest arguement, plus i reaplyed not to you but to some one els... so just for the histery....

make a state ment then judge ... buddy GFUS
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:35 am    Post subject:

You sir, cannot spell for sh*t.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:59 pm    Post subject: Alexander Wechsler, please come to the main office...

to pick up your hemmoroidal cream. Do you have any idea how wrong it seems for me to read about you saying that games have gotten too violent? Last i remember during a drill comp in washington twnshp, we (myself, my dad and haczyk's dad) had the privilege of listening to you say "IS THERE ANY PLACE WHERE I CAN RENT A GUN?!" at that point I went as far as to ask you if you even knew what owning a gun would involve and i tried to explain to you that the responsibility and liability is WAAY too high for you to "rent" a gun in NJ. even thoough tht ais irrelevant, i have to point out one thing. You are a sick, twisted, violent child to begin with. You want to shoot a gun for fun, yes, many people do. but not many people publicly announce it or tell a cop nonetheless. Your perception of violence seems to be a bit unbalanced, alex. suddenly the world has to work for you, right?

look, before you go ahead and start judging games, try and take a looko at yourself. you chose the game, you should have anticipated the violence through previews, dont blame the company for making a game you can't handle just because you drink too much coffee or whatever the hell makes you so nervous and paranoid. that's all i have to say.
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:25 am    Post subject:

I'm gonna vote...NONE. The reason? Manhunt is rated M for mature. Postal 2 is also rated M and sucks. Are you not mature enough to play it? Apparently so, because you take it toooooo seriously. Blood, gore, violence, sexual themes, etc. Who hasn't seen those on tv, in a movie, described in a book, or watched in your neighbor's backyard? You see those ESRB ratings? M is not the most gruesome, there's an Ao, which doesn't neccesarily mean its a porno, just has violence beyond M.

Manhunt. You can strangle people from behind with a plastic bag. Note the bag and people are polygons. Fast foward a little; there's a firefight, your polygonated hero shoots into another polygon person and pixel blood is splattered. Stealth action, rockstar style. 8.4 outta 10 at gamespot.

Postal 2, 4.8 outta 10 at gamespot. Moving on.

Serious Sam. You've got to be kidding me, my 8 year old cousin plays this with glee, and he still watches thomas the tank engine. 8.9 outta 10 at gamespot.

My point is, if at anything, if there was a game out there that was too violent, you wouldn't be able to play it legally. Sometimes doing more violent things in games that haven't been accomplished before give joy to people. I agree that they're not for everyone young and old to enjoy and drink tea over. These are just games. Games were made to be fun, no matter how sick they may try to be. What's the point in making it if it wasn't fun? Note my summary of manhunt. Until technology can do it, we'd all still be playing violent games that we know are not real. Of course, most of us can tell the difference.

P.S. How hard is it to type in a ledgible and understandable dialect of American English?
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 7:47 am    Post subject:

^^

He's right, read a review for the game before you go out and buy it.

Or atleast rent it.
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